Showing posts with label drum pad. Show all posts
Showing posts with label drum pad. Show all posts

Monday, March 15, 2010

Using Instrument Racks w/ Drum Racks To Have Effects Per Row Using Chains

So, yesterday, I was putting together huge drum kits....8 kits per rack...all made for my Trigger Finger. (see yesterdays blog for more info). The thing I really wanted to do was to be able to control effects based off of rows of my trigger finger. I want to be able to use the knobs on the trigger finger for effects, but without them effecting the whole group of samples. Specifically, since these drum pads are mostly for production, I really only want my tools on there so I dont have to waste time with that. Effects, well, im never really sure what I am going to want. I only have 2 knobs per row...one definitely being a frequency shifter. The other, I really want something to transpose the samples note up and down (+6, - 6) like I do with my samples...but that requires either using an audio pitch vst (which I dont really like), or, individually mapping each samples transpose to the same knob....LAME, and will take forever. So I need to think about this.

Another problem with the frequency shifter is that I need to to have a large range, but but also be able to get back to the 0 point easily...because some samples sound like shit if they are even just a few frequencies off....so I might have to use midimap to split a knob into 2 knobs, one going from (on the shifter) 0 and up, and the other knob going 0 and down. That way by putting the knob ALL THE WAY to one side or the other, it will be at 0....instead of trying to find it in the middle of the knob. In that case, I will use up both buttons...so shit....looks like I cant get exactly what I want without tons of mapping work.

ANYWAY....all that aside, lets get into how to make instrument racks w/ drum racks, so you can put different effects per row (or column if you like).

Ok, so what I have done is created a blank instrument rack in a new midi track.

Then, what I want to do is open up the chains of that rack. Now, I will take one of the drum kits I made yesterday (8 kits on 1 rack). Drag that into the device chain 4 times (for all 4 rows) like this -
You can see the exact same drum rack 4 times. Now, what you want to do is go to chain 1 (which is my case are the kicks). You need to delete every sample within that chain that is not a kick.

Then you need to go to chain 2, and delete every sample that is not in row 2 (or column 2 if you are doing columns). In my case, they are snares.

Again for 3, and 4. Also, rename your chains so its easier. Mine now looks like this -


You can see on my grid on the right side of my drum rack, now in rows instead of taking up every square.

Now you have individual chains to put your effects into. I went ahead and put in my frequency shifter to try it out. Click the chain you want, and put the effect after the chain, like this -


Now, any mapping you do to your controller for the effect, will not save when you save this instrument rack. But it is there. Considering I only have 8 knobs, its not a big deal just to map it when I want to use it. Its a lot better than manually putting it in, and I really need a rack that has per row effect options. REMEMBER, CLICK SAVE!

Now, it did take a lot of time to delete out all the samples I didnt want in each rack. If you want, you could just MAKE it right the first time. But, I also like to have copies of JUST my drum racks, in case I am doing improv and my friends want to use my racks their own way. So I put a little extra time into making both. It is a little bit time consuming considering the slow action of deletion of samples within a drum rack.

Also, one little thing I hate about drum racks, is how when you go to view the next 4x4 square within the grid view, it only jumps up 3 rows, not all 4....makes deleting confusing sometime. Maybe a fix for Live 9....please!

Well, now you have an instrument rack that have effects per row on your drum pad. Hopefully you can get the sound you are looking for even faster now.

Peace!

FroBot

Sunday, March 14, 2010

Drum Racks w/ Your Drum Pad - Normal Kit 4x4 Creation

Well, the other day I went over how to use the Novation Launchpad to find stabs, instruments, & other things during the production process. Today, I am going to talk about using your drum pad for elements that definitely need a nice rhythmic response from your pads...such as normal 4x4 drum kits. Having many of these ready to go can really help during the beat making & sample making processes. You can by all means use a tool like the Launchpad for this, but, for drumming, its nice to have really responsive pads in case you do not want to quantize after and are looking for a more natural (human) sound.

I use the M-Audio Trigger Finger for my drums. I like it because the pads are pretty strong, the way I like it, and I also have 8 knobs & 4 faders for controlling other parameters (I want to put a frequency shifter on each row, but I need to think about the best way to do that....which will probably be tomorrow).

Now, I have personally re-mapped the internal midi mapping to the Trigger Finger to work best with the drum racks within ableton. I have dedicated the whole controller on channel 16 to avoid confusion with my Launchpad, VCM 600, & Microkontrol.

I have mapped out memory banks 1-8 (meaning 16pads x 8 banks). That is the same amount as the maximum that the drum racks can hold. (or 128 samples). So each of my racks will have 128 samples starting from C -2, to G8). I have mapped each bank in an exact progression of that scale from banks 1 - 8....meaning, if I click bank one...the bottom left note mapping would be C-2, each pad moving up in midi sequence. If I switch to bank 2, it would be E-1, (again matching the drum rack in ableton). This way, I can switch between 8 total different kits just by switching the memory bank on my controller. So 8 kits per rack (max).

I have also mapped all the midi knobs and faders to be the same values whether on bank 1, or bank 2, bank 3, etc. So, I can have the exact same effect controls on them. This is my preference.

Now, today, I made tons of new kits...just surfing samples and dropping them into audio tracks (like explained in my launchpad drum rack tutorial). But instead of labeling them by genre its like this -

I made each 4x4 session clip spot match what I wanted on the drum pad.

Row 1 - Other Sounds
Row 2 - High Hats
Row 3 - Snares / Claps
Row 4 - Kicks

Of course some are different samples sounding like these elements, but I tried to stay in a rough template. I renamed the scenes to make it easier.


You can notice I messed up a little on the right with the names...but I went back and fixed it after I took the picture.

Start filling up your squares....dont be shy....add tons. You will have tons to choose from.

(I even had other tracks on the right side because I kept stumbling upon other samples I wanted in my launchpad racks, so mine looked like this) The first 8 rows are for drum kits.


So you've selected all your samples.

Now, just make a new midi track with a drum rack, and set the view down to c-2.

Here is the downfall to this method, which I learned today. Since when you drag from your audio clips into the pad, it puts whatever you have in scene 1, 2, 3, 4 in the bottom of the pad, and my kicks for instance, and horizontal through the tracks, you must select only kicks 1, 2, 3, 4, and then drag them into the drum rack. Then go back, select the snares, and drag them in. Again and Again.

After doing this, I realized, its probably much easier if I were to have named the scenes like this.

1- Kick
2 - Kick
3 - Kick
4 - Kick
5-Snare
6-Snare
7-Snare
8-Snare
9-HH
10-HH
11-HH
12-HH
13-Other
14-Other
15-Other
16-Other

If I would have made the drum racks I made vertically, I could just drag them by the whole GROUP into the drum pad. But, it really only took me and extra 7 minutes doing it my way....and I was easily able to visualize a pad when I was making it in the normal session view. So whichever way you like is fine. You can just drag into drum racks, but when surfing and finding certain elements in groups (like all snares, or all HH), the way the drum racks view works can be tricky because there are no labels to tell you what each row is. (ex. HH, Kicks, etc)

After that...click the little disk icon on your rack to save it...name it....and there you have 16x8 pads in one rack.

Now if you plan to improv with these kits, you will need to go in and adjust all the volumes (all in my launchpad drum rack tutorial).

Now, to make a new rack, just drag a new rack over your old one, and do it again until all your samples you chose are gone. I made 3 racks today...so about 384 drum samples.

Now, if I ever want to layer a drum sample, I can just use the overdub button, record within the midi track, and I have 128 samples to choose from. Nice options for building.

Now, time to figure out how to program effects based on the rows. I was thinking about separating the drum rack into 4 separate racks....containing only one row out of the 4x4 pad. Run them all together, and put the effects I want per row in each rack....but there has got to be a better way. I know I could throw them individually into each chain and then map them, but that will take fucking forever. Anyway, that will all be for tomorrow anyway.

Have fun making beats with your drum pad!

Peace!

FroBot